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So what's Fedi's favourite federated facebook freplacement?

I had a vague recollection of Diaspora* looking interesting, but looking further I see they still haven't figured out migrating accounts and at this point that's a Hard Requirement tbqh

also does anyone know a good synonym for "replacement" beginning with F

in reply to Dan Fixes Coin-Ops

(yes I know the software I'm posting from doesn't allow account migrations either, but just because I made a mistake once doesn't mean I wanna make it again. Okay twice, because I started on .social and still have four years of posts there. Okay yeah I was on stux's server too, so I made the mistake three times alright, well fool me four times shame on me and you and website boy and the whole of time and space and human evolution leading up to that moment
in reply to Dan Fixes Coin-Ops

Friendica shows promise but it's written for people who care about software and protocols and honestly, like, nobody does. I'm not gonna be able to get my mum signed up for this.

I mean srsly check out the crap on the homepage:

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Decentralization
Decentralized architecture with no central authority or ownership.
Relationships can be made across any compatible system, creating a network of Internet scale made up of smaller sites.
Seamless wall-to-wall posts and remote comments, even across different network nodes.

Privacy
Access lists for every item.
Private conversation groups — on these pages all communications are restricted to group members.
One-to-one private messaging on supported protocols.
Optionally "expire" old content after a certain period of time.
Download your personal data. It all belongs to you.

Interoperability
Built-in support for ActivityPub (e.g. Funkwhale, Hubzilla, Mastodon, Pleroma, Pixelfed), OStatus (e.g. StatusNet, GNU social, Quitter) and diaspora* protocols.
Support for email contacts and communications (two-way) via IMAP4rev1/ESMTP.
Import arbitrary websites and blogs into your social stream via RSS/Atom feeds.
Support for other services via plugins.
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That's noise. That's all just noise. Like, it means something to me? It sounds great to me! It means something to probably the majority of the people who are on fedi! But outside of our nerd bubble, to seriously 999 out of 1,000 people, that's all just computer gibberish for weirdos who probably run linux.

in reply to Dan Fixes Coin-Ops

Yaknow, if someone's Windows installation gets all screwed up to the point where only a complete reformat and reinstall makes sense, you know what they do?

They go and buy a new computer.

I know this because once upon a time I was the guy that sold them one.

I am begging the nerds to understand that if windows gets irreparably fouled up and the person using it* can't afford a new computer, they will continue using the current one in its fouled-up state, having a Bad Time, and I know this because once upon a time I was the guy who came round to unfoul it.

Please for the love of god write software for use by the actual real people who really exist in the world, not some idealised fantasy where everyone put all their skill points into Computer.

* (if you use the word "user" to refer to people, imagine me hitting you with a rolled-up newspaper)

in reply to Dan Fixes Coin-Ops

Like seriously I need y'all to understand that most social circles do not include someone who can take out a broken hard drive and put in a new one and put windows on it.

When the hard drive dies, the whole-ass computer goes in the bin, end of story.

For goodness' sake keep that in mind when you're designing your software, and the website that tells people why they should use your software

in reply to Dan Fixes Coin-Ops

If you're a competent software maker or interface designer you should constantly be thinking "Oh wait, no, that only makes sense to me because I'm an irredeemable weirdo, normal people without a monitor tan won't be able to make head nor tail of this"
in reply to Dan Fixes Coin-Ops

🦊 Oh, but all MY social circles include the guy who can change out a broken hard drive!

🦝 THAT'S YOU. YOU'RE THE GUY

in reply to Dan Fixes Coin-Ops

🦝 *leaning close enough to see the veins in my eyes* WOULDN'T YOU LOVE TO NOT BE THE GUY ANYMORE
in reply to Dan Fixes Coin-Ops

Once again thinking about this as folk bounce off fedi and flock to A Social Media Site Run By A DIFFERENT American Billionaire
in reply to Dan Fixes Coin-Ops

Hey, you know how when you gotta do something that's so jank it'll only run on windows, you set up a new windows box, what's the first thing you do?

You go into the settings in the file explorer and swear at it and go "Where the hell have they hidden it this time" until you find the option that shows the whole filenames, right? So you don't end up double-clicking on cutekitten.jpg.exe, right? So you can see what the hell's going on in the computer that you bought and that lives in your house? How the hell else are you supposed to use it, right?

Most people don't do that. Hardly anyone does that. You are an outlier for doing that. You are a tiny minority. If someone downloads a zip with file.html and file.css and file.jpg then they only see file, file and file. Most people never change any settings. Most people don't even know that there ARE settings. The joke about the writer who sighs and says "Sometimes I'm sad that I make art.txt not art.jpg," nobody gets that joke, except weirdo computer people like us.

I cannot express strenuously enough how different most peoples' experience of technology is, to how people talk about it on fedi, which is full of the one person in a hundred who fiddle with the settings. But which also seems to have lots of people who are trying earnestly to make Software That Will Change The World.

If you want your software to be liberating, if you want it to be an agent of positive change, then it has to be usable and understandable by a majority of people. Being frustrated at Clueless Users won't change anything, won't help anything, won't do anybody any good. I promise you, these people are just as frustrated at you as you are at them, and you're outnumbered a hundred to one.

Meet people where they are FFS.

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in reply to Dan Fixes Coin-Ops

I'm frustrated because people want to leave facebook. Millions of people, right now, want to get off facebook, they're ready to move, they're crying out for somewhere to move to, they're ready to take their friends with them, and we've missed the damn moment again. The same computer people who want everyone to get off facebook are banging on about nodes and software licenses and decentralization as though anyone understands what any of that means, or cares.

Like, if we want to actually make a fart in the wind's worth of difference then making a space that's only usable by the other computer people isn't gonna cut it.

People are literally asking each other "Where can we go now that this place is obviously under enemy control, we have to get out of here," these moments don't come around that often, and friendica's all “The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout ‘Save us!’… and I’ll look down and whisper ‘Nodes’.”

in reply to Dan Fixes Coin-Ops

We don't get to be smug about this. It's no bloody good sat here going "Well, *I'm* on the *non-billionaire-owned* social media, so I'm doing alright," when no bugger else can figure it out. We're a part of this world.
in reply to Dan Fixes Coin-Ops

I'm on #Friendica and it's very easy. Unfortunately, yes, the devs are pretty out of touch and the installation is perpetually broken, but the platform itself is quite good and not all that janky at all.
in reply to Comrade Ferret

@ferret aye I gave it a go and, like, to me it looks alright, but I *know* that I'm a weirdo who presses buttons just to see what they do
in reply to Dan Fixes Coin-Ops

@ferret there is also #sharkey which is FB like but more up to date than #friendica you might want to check out this review blog.elenarossini.com/sharkey-…
in reply to lps

@ferret the only downfall is it seems that mobile clients are a bit hard to find. I know there is #kaiteki for android, not sure what is available for iOS, maybe just the progressive web app.
in reply to lps

oh maybe there is something for iOS apps.apple.com/ca/app/kimis-a-…

FYI Sharkey is a fork of Misskey so the this mobile app will be compatible

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in reply to lps

There's a lot going around about how Sharkey is headed by a scam artist. Would recommend staying away.

fedi.workersofthe.world/displa…

Not sure what the issue is with Friendica? Friendica has all that (minus antennas), along with groups, events, PMs, circles. It also has a very robust mobile app in Raccoon.


Today, I would like to remind everyone, that the Sharkey development team, tricked their user base to gift them, collectively, 2,000.00 bucks for a server, that ended up being used as someone's personal computer to play Minecraft.

The Join Sharkey website, never did come back online, the server was taken home, and the development placed under "new" (wink, wink) management immediately afterward. The Sharkey development regularly trolls users, and anytime you make a valid point, they falsely claim you're anti-LGBTQ+, and at least one of their "supporters" (wink, wink) has attempt to DOX people too.

Do not give this development any money and do not trust them.

#Sharkey #Misskey #Fediverse #ActivityPub


in reply to Comrade Ferret

@ferret I didn't hear anything about that, thanks I'll look into it. i've been considering setting up a personal instance, but might reconsider.
in reply to lps

@ferret I love #friendica but I find it slow/less responsive and a bit out of date. From what I understand there are only 2 active devs?
in reply to lps

It just got a big update in December and has another coming hopefully at the end of the month. Maybe it's a little slow? But that's going to be more about the server and federation than the software.

Misskey seems cool. I've never used it so I can't speak to user friendliness.

in reply to Comrade Ferret

@ferret thanks, I'll have to take another look.

Misskey is very nice, calckey/sharkey etc are all apples from the same tree. Very nice, I'm just not sure which are being actively developed and Misskey is primarily Japanese users